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		<title>By: Joe Case</title>
		<link>http://thejeffbrown.me/2009/05/05/amazing-grace-how-tweet-the-sound/#comment-216</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Case</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 03:01:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We just started encouraging people to &quot;Twitter&quot; about the service DURING church. Of those that do, they said their retention rate is MUCH better than just listening. Plus, they can refer back to their Twitter &quot;notes&quot; at any time. 
Definite plus in my book!
Joe Case, Senior Pastor 
The Uprising
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We just started encouraging people to &#8220;Twitter&#8221; about the service DURING church. Of those that do, they said their retention rate is MUCH better than just listening. Plus, they can refer back to their Twitter &#8220;notes&#8221; at any time.<br />
Definite plus in my book!<br />
Joe Case, Senior Pastor<br />
The Uprising<br />
Nashville, TN</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
		<link>http://thejeffbrown.me/2009/05/05/amazing-grace-how-tweet-the-sound/#comment-193</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 23:24:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good stuff Drew.  Keep &#039;em coming everyone.</description>
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		<title>By: Drew</title>
		<link>http://thejeffbrown.me/2009/05/05/amazing-grace-how-tweet-the-sound/#comment-192</link>
		<dc:creator>Drew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 23:21:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a follow up here, I will point out that perhaps the church I attend is not a format conducive to using twitter during church. We have a very town hall sort of feel. Our pastor asks questions, and we answer them. A couple of weeks ago, we actually went around the room discussing our &quot;age&quot; as Christians - the Bible speaks of the young needing the milk of the word, and more mature Christians needing meat, but often still clinging to milk. The conversation was where are we - children? Teenagers? Adults? - the answers are varied and surprising, but to twitter would not be effective there, since these conversations sometimes steer completely away from the pastor to conversations between the people in attendance - it generally manages to stay on topic, and keeps everyone who desires involvement INVOLVED in the service. Perhaps in a larger format, twitter could be that involvement. I believe Brant has discussed this at least twice on the morning show - involvement I mean, not twitter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a follow up here, I will point out that perhaps the church I attend is not a format conducive to using twitter during church. We have a very town hall sort of feel. Our pastor asks questions, and we answer them. A couple of weeks ago, we actually went around the room discussing our &#8220;age&#8221; as Christians &#8211; the Bible speaks of the young needing the milk of the word, and more mature Christians needing meat, but often still clinging to milk. The conversation was where are we &#8211; children? Teenagers? Adults? &#8211; the answers are varied and surprising, but to twitter would not be effective there, since these conversations sometimes steer completely away from the pastor to conversations between the people in attendance &#8211; it generally manages to stay on topic, and keeps everyone who desires involvement INVOLVED in the service. Perhaps in a larger format, twitter could be that involvement. I believe Brant has discussed this at least twice on the morning show &#8211; involvement I mean, not twitter.</p>
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		<title>By: Amy D.</title>
		<link>http://thejeffbrown.me/2009/05/05/amazing-grace-how-tweet-the-sound/#comment-191</link>
		<dc:creator>Amy D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 14:00:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve thought so far out of the box I came back around, climbed inside the box and now live here permanently.

;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve thought so far out of the box I came back around, climbed inside the box and now live here permanently.</p>
<p> <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
		<link>http://thejeffbrown.me/2009/05/05/amazing-grace-how-tweet-the-sound/#comment-190</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 04:11:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s a great story Ernst.  There&#039;s also the request you made of me, as one of the people who introduced you to your bride, to share thoughts about the two of you.  My attempt (although too late) to send my thoughts to said Blackberry via Facebook from 300 miles away during the ceremony, is just one more example of the wonder that is social media.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s a great story Ernst.  There&#8217;s also the request you made of me, as one of the people who introduced you to your bride, to share thoughts about the two of you.  My attempt (although too late) to send my thoughts to said Blackberry via Facebook from 300 miles away during the ceremony, is just one more example of the wonder that is social media.</p>
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		<title>By: Ernst</title>
		<link>http://thejeffbrown.me/2009/05/05/amazing-grace-how-tweet-the-sound/#comment-189</link>
		<dc:creator>Ernst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 03:27:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interestingly enough this topic should come up.  My wife and I renewed our wedding vows a couple of weeks ago. Once the ceremony had started, we noticed that the Communion bread was not in it&#039;s rightful place.  One of the Pastors officiating the communion sent a text, from the stage, to one of our ushers in the back of the room to get the bread and bring it up.  Needless to say, technology saved the day once again.  I even wrote my vows on and read them from my Blackberry. HAHA</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interestingly enough this topic should come up.  My wife and I renewed our wedding vows a couple of weeks ago. Once the ceremony had started, we noticed that the Communion bread was not in it&#8217;s rightful place.  One of the Pastors officiating the communion sent a text, from the stage, to one of our ushers in the back of the room to get the bread and bring it up.  Needless to say, technology saved the day once again.  I even wrote my vows on and read them from my Blackberry. HAHA</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
		<link>http://thejeffbrown.me/2009/05/05/amazing-grace-how-tweet-the-sound/#comment-188</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 02:37:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hear you Amy, but who are we kidding?  Capturing the attention of the congregation is something the church has struggled with for years.  From crying babies and restless kids, to dads nodding off, singles day-dreaming, and across-the-room hunger pangs.

Years ago, I was reading my bible during the sermon from my Palm PDA.  I don&#039;t remember it having an adverse affect other than causing the occasional double-take; usually from someone who wanted to believe I was doing something I &quot;shouldn&#039;t,&quot; instead of minding their own business.  

If I&#039;m playing Tetris on my iPhone, complete with bells and whistles, that&#039;s one thing.  But if I&#039;m silently sharing with my sphere of influence the value of a sermon, is there not legitimacy in that?  

How about the TV cameras stationed throughout the sanctuary?  I&#039;ll bet someone at some point argued they too were a distraction.  The vibrating pager alerts to parents of unruly children in the nursery, or the numbers that flash on an LED screen in the sanctuary alerting a parent to a problem I&#039;m sure at one time were a tough sell.  Now, they&#039;re an after thought.   

Granted, this idea won&#039;t work in every church, nor should it.  I&#039;m just saying there are at least some churches that have people sitting in the pews every Sunday who, with the push of a button, could begin to impact the life of another human being half-way around the world whose last thought is of ever setting foot in a church, but who wouldn&#039;t think twice about engaging in issues of faith with someone who&#039;d taken the time to get to know them and build their trust over time on Twitter.

I agree &quot;the church is a collection of individuals coming together for a purpose,&quot; but does that mean if you&#039;re not physically in the room you&#039;re not welcome?  You seem to assume that the interaction (or twittering in this case) is taking place in a vacuum and amongst &quot;each other&quot; only.  I challenge you to think outside that box a little more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hear you Amy, but who are we kidding?  Capturing the attention of the congregation is something the church has struggled with for years.  From crying babies and restless kids, to dads nodding off, singles day-dreaming, and across-the-room hunger pangs.</p>
<p>Years ago, I was reading my bible during the sermon from my Palm PDA.  I don&#8217;t remember it having an adverse affect other than causing the occasional double-take; usually from someone who wanted to believe I was doing something I &#8220;shouldn&#8217;t,&#8221; instead of minding their own business.  </p>
<p>If I&#8217;m playing Tetris on my iPhone, complete with bells and whistles, that&#8217;s one thing.  But if I&#8217;m silently sharing with my sphere of influence the value of a sermon, is there not legitimacy in that?  </p>
<p>How about the TV cameras stationed throughout the sanctuary?  I&#8217;ll bet someone at some point argued they too were a distraction.  The vibrating pager alerts to parents of unruly children in the nursery, or the numbers that flash on an LED screen in the sanctuary alerting a parent to a problem I&#8217;m sure at one time were a tough sell.  Now, they&#8217;re an after thought.   </p>
<p>Granted, this idea won&#8217;t work in every church, nor should it.  I&#8217;m just saying there are at least some churches that have people sitting in the pews every Sunday who, with the push of a button, could begin to impact the life of another human being half-way around the world whose last thought is of ever setting foot in a church, but who wouldn&#8217;t think twice about engaging in issues of faith with someone who&#8217;d taken the time to get to know them and build their trust over time on Twitter.</p>
<p>I agree &#8220;the church is a collection of individuals coming together for a purpose,&#8221; but does that mean if you&#8217;re not physically in the room you&#8217;re not welcome?  You seem to assume that the interaction (or twittering in this case) is taking place in a vacuum and amongst &#8220;each other&#8221; only.  I challenge you to think outside that box a little more.</p>
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		<title>By: Amy D.</title>
		<link>http://thejeffbrown.me/2009/05/05/amazing-grace-how-tweet-the-sound/#comment-185</link>
		<dc:creator>Amy D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 01:25:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe I&#039;m old-fashioned, but it just seems disrespectful to me to be doing anything other than paying attention to what&#039;s at-hand (which in this case is church). Being mindful of distracting the congregants around you is incredibly important as well. 

You can go ahead and invite kids to &quot;use&quot; their social media to communicate with the church *during* church, but if you could go back and audit the communications that happened during a particular service, you&#039;d find probably none of them communicated anything about church. One person interacting with his phone amidst a group is not about the church as a whole anyway. The church is a collection of individuals coming together for a purpose and can we not have just one time and place during which we are considerately recognized and acknowledged face-to-face?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe I&#8217;m old-fashioned, but it just seems disrespectful to me to be doing anything other than paying attention to what&#8217;s at-hand (which in this case is church). Being mindful of distracting the congregants around you is incredibly important as well. </p>
<p>You can go ahead and invite kids to &#8220;use&#8221; their social media to communicate with the church *during* church, but if you could go back and audit the communications that happened during a particular service, you&#8217;d find probably none of them communicated anything about church. One person interacting with his phone amidst a group is not about the church as a whole anyway. The church is a collection of individuals coming together for a purpose and can we not have just one time and place during which we are considerately recognized and acknowledged face-to-face?</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
		<link>http://thejeffbrown.me/2009/05/05/amazing-grace-how-tweet-the-sound/#comment-187</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 01:23:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well-said Drew.  I tend to agree with you.  

I&#039;ve also practiced many of the same things you have (turning my phone off prior to entering the building, tweeting and Facebooking afterward).  

One time I even texted a congregant from the choir loft prior to the actual beginning of the service and the two of us proceeded to text back and forth about how &quot;wrong&quot; (albeit jokingly) it was.  

It&#039;ll have that &quot;taboo&quot; feel to it for some time, I think, even among those of us open to the idea.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well-said Drew.  I tend to agree with you.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve also practiced many of the same things you have (turning my phone off prior to entering the building, tweeting and Facebooking afterward).  </p>
<p>One time I even texted a congregant from the choir loft prior to the actual beginning of the service and the two of us proceeded to text back and forth about how &#8220;wrong&#8221; (albeit jokingly) it was.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;ll have that &#8220;taboo&#8221; feel to it for some time, I think, even among those of us open to the idea.</p>
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		<title>By: Drew</title>
		<link>http://thejeffbrown.me/2009/05/05/amazing-grace-how-tweet-the-sound/#comment-186</link>
		<dc:creator>Drew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 22:45:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting idea. Personally, I turn my phone off before I go into church, but I&#039;m known to twitter about church or post about it on facebook afterwards. Our church also has a (somewhat under used) website that includes forums, ways to submit prayer requests online, and things such as that. Of course, many of the people that attend our church (it&#039;s a small church in a small town) are not as technically savvy as the kids are these days. That said, we have a relatively HUGE number of youth, which in and of itself is awesome. Many of them are young enough that they have little business spending any time online at this point, but some of the high school aged youth are online a lot.

Can twitter ever be a proper tool for the church? It may be too early to tell, but I believe we should use any avenue we can to communicate not just with ourselves, as Christians, but to those we would like to come to call brothers and sisters in Christ. Certainly, that makes Twitter a target for the ol&#039; college try.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting idea. Personally, I turn my phone off before I go into church, but I&#8217;m known to twitter about church or post about it on facebook afterwards. Our church also has a (somewhat under used) website that includes forums, ways to submit prayer requests online, and things such as that. Of course, many of the people that attend our church (it&#8217;s a small church in a small town) are not as technically savvy as the kids are these days. That said, we have a relatively HUGE number of youth, which in and of itself is awesome. Many of them are young enough that they have little business spending any time online at this point, but some of the high school aged youth are online a lot.</p>
<p>Can twitter ever be a proper tool for the church? It may be too early to tell, but I believe we should use any avenue we can to communicate not just with ourselves, as Christians, but to those we would like to come to call brothers and sisters in Christ. Certainly, that makes Twitter a target for the ol&#8217; college try.</p>
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